Het creëren van grafische weergave partituur voor MAVEE

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27. september 2009 kl. 20:23 Anmeld
Chronopolis looks amazing. going to watch it right now. thanks man!

27. september 2009 kl. 23:10
you’re welcome! Feel free to let me know what you think afterwards if you feel like it.

28. september 2009 kl. 02:03 Anmeld
yeah i really like the style of it very much. i think the immortals got what they wanted. plus the sound design and music is awesome!

29. september 2009 kl. 11:26
Yep. He worked closely with the GRM-composers so a lot of his films are scored by people like Parmegiani, Bayle, Cohen-Solal and Ferrari. That is amazing.
I see you are a friend of the goodie, are you taking part in the MAVEE?

29. september 2009 kl. 21:51 Anmeld
yes i am. i posted a pic a few days ago of a graphic score that i made in the MAVEE book. He said it was fantastic. I’m currently working on the audio part of the score and it sounds interesting. the possibilities are endless.

1. oktober 2009 kl. 20:41 Anmeld
Are you taking part in the mavee too?

2. oktober 2009 kl. 11:57
yes I am and I am as well a very dedicated goodiepal fan boy since 2001(-:. But I have had some serious problems finishing the composition – I guess I think to much about the theoretical implications of the work as a way of critically “veryfying” (which is a word I do not like to apply to theory) if the goodie’s thoughts on music are really that original.
I have two versions of the score – the first and the second edition. I have had the first since July 2008 and I think it is the one I will be using in the end. My intention is to let the front and the back of the book meet by bending it in order to efface the A to B linearity that the book format naturally encourages in our culture and then – at least on a theoretical level – create a hole between the two points as a hole in time with the two records marking the two points. That will probably be my solution. On the pages I will just make/finish random ornaments which will consist of debates about the MAVEE from the internet, and examples from projects or earlier composers works that I think in some ways precede some of the elements in Goodie’s thought on ideas about linearity in music and computer-human communication (which I guess Goodie would not support trying to break away from tradition and history as far as I have understood, but that will be my take on the composition).

What about you?

3. oktober 2009 kl. 01:16 Anmeld
Wow, I really like your way of thinking! 🙂 well right now I am concerned about making graphic scores that the computer or A.I will be unable to “scan” and challenge the way it could interpret it in the future. I am also interested in finding a way to challenge the concept of time in music. I think for that to happen we have to bypass the audio formats of today and come up with something radically different. what will music be like and how will it be listened to in the distant future by humans and A.I’s?

5. oktober 2009 kl. 19:26 Anmeld
When do you think you”ll be finished with your project?

5. oktober 2009 kl. 22:46
I do not really know. It will be when I will one day manage to leave my books for a day without feeling guilty (: But, it could be finished in a day or two with the materials at hand. The basic idea of my score is finished in thought and on paper as I outlined for you, but I keep finding new obstacles that leads me to new ways of thinking about the realization of the whole project. And Goodiepal has explained his project in so many different ways since the release of the Alku_69 file which makes it difficult to grasp and keep track of. It is in an embryonary state right now and that is quite a challenge.
I think that the composition definetely gives a way of thinking audio formats in a whole new way – two pieces of objectified sound/bricks/music where inbetween you can fill in what ever you want (the best of humankind I suppose) for the computer to try to scan – two traditional (in some people’s view obsolete) sound carriers + X = ???

Some time ago I thought about Iannis Xenakis and his critique of the A-B linearity in serial music in relation to Goodiepal, and his inclusion of space and architecture in his compositions, and I find it interesting as well that Xenakis scanned graphic scores into computers to explore the outcome (www.youtube.com/watch?v=yztoaNakKok). That is one of the things that I think precedes Goodiepal in some ways, but to arrive at the Radical Computer Music that Goodiepal advocates for it is probably not the right tradition or context to understand him in.
Mycenae Alpha
www.youtube.com
Iannis Xenakis created the music using the UPIC which makes sound based on drawings that Xenakis made.
Del

6. oktober 2009 kl. 21:00 Anmeld
Yes I remmeber seeing this video some time age. Its pretty cool. But it still goes from A-B on a X-Y axis. Some time in the near future I want to start devolping software that can break away from these types of linear compositions. It would be cool to control the playback position of the UPIC cursor on the X-Y axis and have it be in 3D. I think your heading in the right path about thinking in a new way about audio formats with your work on the MAVEE. I would like to develop a spatial system to see if a new audio format would be possible, but my technical levels are not there yet. I was thinking about how goodiepal said to make music for Alternative Intelligences and A.I. I think we would have to go beyond the frequencies of the human ear to interest these A.I’s. A.I’s definitely have a wider range of Sonic capability.

bron: https://soundcloud.com/goodiepal-gaeoudjiparl/the-official-mort-aux-vaches-ekstra-extra-walkthrough

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